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The Weekend Neos Kosmos : 26 October 2019
DIGITAL.NEOSKOSMOS.COM THE WEEKEND NEOS KOSMOS | SATURDAY 26 OCTOBER 2019 21 PEOPLE & PLACES YOUR WORDS. YOUR VOICE. Here’s what our readers on Facebook thought about: Central Greek priests refuse funerals for cremated Liana Papoutsis My father was cremated. It is not for the church to dictate how one wants their remains to be treated. And yes, dad was christened Greek Orthodox. Melbourne Pancretan Youth Club returns from Crete Tour The Pancretan Youth Club (PYC) was formed in 1976 by a group of second generation Greek Australians of Cretan background. They had the initiative to bring together people of the same or similar age group so that they don't lose sight of their Hellenic identity and Cretan Ancestry. Since then, many committees have continued the tradition and have organised events and functions, writing great chapters in the Youth Club's history books. It's these people that we acknowledge and thank as we take over the reigns and reinvigorate this proud and historic Youth Club. Currently the Youth Club Committee consists of a great group of vibrant individuals wanting to serve the Pancretan Youth of Melbourne - Australia with great pride and passion that have planned many activities and events including the Club's second trip to Greece in as many as five years, titled 'Return to the Roots'. The Pancretan Youth Club were honoured to represent the Melbourne Association in Crete, and participate in the many events and activities that were planned on the island. The PYC members that travelled to Crete participated in several activities from Chania to Heraklion with an aim to promote and strengthen the ties between Greece and Australia whilst getting reacquainted with the rich Cretan history and traditions. The trip to the homeland culminated with the Global Cretan Association and Cretan District honouring distinct Cretans of the diaspora, amongst whom two Greek Australians, Mr Socrates Tsourdalakis and Mr Dimitris Papadodimitrakis. 6th Box Hill Hellenic Scout Group 50 year jubilee In a room full of scouts and friends on Sunday 13 October, the 6th Box Hill Scout Group celebrated its 50th anniversary. The survival for half a century for any organisation, especially in this day and age is remarkable, especially if it is a community group that helps educate and connect young Greek Australians. Amongst the many attendees there were old and new members in their scout uniforms or wearing their scout's scarf with the colours of the Hellenic flag. Even the celebratory cake depicted the Greek flag. Liana Papoutsis There are priests who conduct normal funeral services in the Greek Orthodox church and then a burial or cremation follows. There are priests who have zero problem with cremations. The issue is the inconsistency of the stance of various priests which creates confusion. Dimi Fagridas All about fees to church. John Savvas Oh no, how will we overcharge for burial lots? No more fakelakia. That’s what I hear. Floren Michael If they refuse the funeral, the sin is on them. In ancient times, Greeks were burnt. The whole funeral business with churches is a money-making scam exploiting the grieved. Shame on them... Tom Skolarikis “The Church does not accept the incineration of the body for its members”. I suppose the Greek Orthodox Church used the same line to comfort the families of those who were ‘incinerated’ beyond recognition in the Mati fires last year. What a pity that in the eyes of god, they have no chance to ever be ‘resurrected body and soul’. They’ll be in limbo for all eternity. Maria Angelopoulos People, if you want to get cremated then do it. But I don’t see why you should make it the church’s problem. If you are a practising Christian you would never consider a cremation. Anna Psalios Well said, Maria ... All they want is to church bash nothing more. They have annihilated everything from birth to family and now even death. As Maria said above, if you want to be cremated go ahead. If not, just move along and let the church do what they have to do and what must be done. Anastasia Hernandez Salguero Well Maria, we never made it a church problem until the church and priests of these churches decided to make it our problem, how one chooses to be buried is their business. The priest that had done my late fathers memorial service was totally disrespectful towards my late father and us and just came for the money. I was so distraught and upset that someone who has taken an oath to serve our Lord could be so rude. If you believe in God then you can pray anywhere you do not need a place called ‘church’ to practice your beliefs. David LaBelle So instead, we pay exorbitant fees to bury our loved ones in already overcrowded cemeteries, pay for extensions, and then pay to witness our loved one being dug back up and placed in a box - at an additional cost. Notwithstanding the money issue, why force people to reopen the wounds of grieving by extending this process when with cremation offers a one and done solution? Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, I seem to remember reading that someplace... I wonder where that was written? Scouts honoured in special ceremony. Vasiliki Fengaripedi Jesus didn’t say that at all, and how mean to refuse a funeral service. This is the powerful men in the Church and their doctrine and it’s all about the fakelakia. Teacher in court for advising against xenophobia Kyriakos Manias I am not surprised in the least from the reaction of the locals. They still have issues with Albanians in Greece, 40 years later. Young and old joined together in the 50-year celebration Katerina Sfetsos There’s more to the story than what the article states. Poor journalism. The people of Sámos are suffering! They are not racists!!! They are fearful and for good reason. So many atrocities are happening to this beautiful place since boats are constantly entering. It’s terrible! The locals are treated badly and their rights are not addressed. Services for young and old Samians are non existent. Most are not refugees fleeing war. Most are from Africa. They arrive in Turkey by plane and then take a boat to Samos. Did I mention they have the latest mobile phones? Most hard-working Samians cannot afford one! Samos is a beautiful place where the people are peaceful and very accommodating. Samians need to feel safe and at peace again. Tony Helen Dem She should take them to her house, as they are not xenophobic. They should stop this spiel as they’ve destroyed the country. Greeks are suffering and the state doesn’t give a dime for patriots. They have become the bosses in our country and as soon as you react, they call you ‘racist’. Back to where they came from. We don’t want illegals, and that’s what they should call them and leave the rest. (Translated) Write your comments on our social media pages and see them publicized here... Young scouts continue the tradition.
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